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October 14, 2024 at 7:50 am #52427
dosakkhayo
ParticipantSace tassa bhoto satthuno saccaṁ vacanaṁ, apaṇṇakatāya mayhaṁ, yvāhaṁ na kiñci byābādhemi tasaṁ vā thāvaraṁ vā?
Ubhayamettha kaṭaggāho, yaṁ camhi kāyena saṁvuto vācāya saṁvuto manasā saṁvuto, yañca kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā sugatiṁ saggaṁ lokaṁ upapajjissāmī’ti.
The English translation of this passage is: ‘If what this good teacher says is true, it’s a safe bet for me to not hurt any creature firm or frail. I hold a perfect hand on both counts, since I’m restrained in body, speech, and mind, and when my body breaks up, after death, I’ll be reborn in a good place, a heavenly realm.’
However, I feel that this doesn’t make sense.
What would be the correct interpretation of this passage?”
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October 14, 2024 at 11:02 am #52429
Lal
KeymasterYes. The translation could be better. That is another example of translating “word-by-word” without understanding the meaning.
A better translation is: “Even if what this good teacher says is true, it’s a safe bet for me to not hurt any creature firm or frail.”
- I suggest reading the English translation starting @22.3 in this link; “Pāṭaliya Sutta (SN 42.13).”
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October 14, 2024 at 11:30 am #52430
dosakkhayo
ParticipantI read the part you mentioned.
I understood that the dhamma samadhi mentioned in this sutta is the samadhi obtained by practicing saddhamma and abandoning asaddhamma.
This seems to be the same as samma samadhi.
Is my understanding correct?
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October 14, 2024 at 12:04 pm #52431
Lal
KeymasterIt is only the mundane version of “samma samadhi.”
- Getting rid of 10 types of miccha ditthi (the focus in the sutta) helps avoid rebirth in an apaya in the short term.
- To reach “lokuttara Samma Samadhi,” one needs to comprehend the Four Noble Truths/PS/Tilakkhana.
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October 14, 2024 at 12:12 pm #52432
dosakkhayo
ParticipantSadhu! Sadhu! Sadhu!
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