Reply To: Jhana and magga pala

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Lal:

Thanks. It turns out that Suttacental does have the full text after all!

You say: ” even if one may not be thinking about “getting something in return”, that sanna (Vipalassa) is with that person” How is this? If for many years one has seen and LIVED THE FACT that expecting something in return will result in having to come back to this world or some other to reap the fitting reward, be it even a gross material planet where the humanity is not only technologically, but spiritually ahead of this one here, of which there are many in this one Galaxy alone,AND HAS ALSO SEEN that any life anywhere puts limits and constraints on one and is limited in duration, and is in the end only a burden and a delusion- then,THEN
one seeks only for Perfection. But to earn that Perfection one will have to become perfect oneself.Perfection, or the Ideal of Perfection is one other meaning of ATTA that I see implied in some suttas.

Now is this not in fact anicca put in layman terms? DukKHA and Anatta follow as a matter of course. Everything is seen to be imperfect, unsatisfactory, not yielding what it promises, a disappointment, not fruitful, a delusion: a-nicca……from the contemplation of which follows pain, sorrow and many kinds of suffering, and even more of it if one sees that there is no way of stopping it in any future, here or elsewhere in material, however fine, existence: dukkha and dukKHA…..leading to the realization, I call it even a ‘revolt inside oneself’ that dukKHA cannot be the final destiny of Life (is ANATTA) ,that Perfection in the most comprehensive sense of the word exists somewhere (ATTA) and that some do perfect themselves and out of compassion show the Way.*

*The full implications of this taken with the fact of the infinite number of inhabited worlds in the numberless universes, the appearing and disappearing of which is a process that has never had a beginning,will be mind-boggling to most. So I shall refrain.

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