Reply To: Post on “Upaya and Upādāna – Two Stages of Attachment” June 24, 2024 at 10:38 am #50462 LalKeymaster Yes. Bahidda vinnana is NOT kamma vinnana; bahidda vinnana is a vipaka vinnana. Kamacchanda is the same everywhere. It is a strong attachment to sensual pleasures. 1 user thanked author for this post. dosakkhayo