Reply To: Hadaya vatthu in asanna realm November 22, 2021 at 9:26 am #36158 Tobias GParticipant For me it seems “no mind” means “no hadaya”. But with dhammayatana there is mind (even if no thoughts are possible). The statement “only body, no mind” is confusing. The life must be maintained and that requires some “mind” or nama part.