“So as we can see there is many factors to that simply statement I made and can be covered deeply to trigger potential insight but one can develop those on it’s own with this basic understanding as above
And this is how one progress on Nibbana Path with Panna vimutti way
without jhanas or meditation involved etc. just by creating causes for pure mind just with samadhi, but I personally saw benefits of meditation that contributed to that so I think if you get into certain level of insight you do not need to meditate really, Dhamma energy from #formal-practice-meditation makes it easier”
One can get rid of lust to some extent by persuasion because of the learning of dharma. On special occasions, he may not be able to get out of it. If it is neutral, I think you are at the stage of noting only. It is rather difficult to just remain neutral. You will go further down the road: wood, you begin to analyze and differentiate; better wood or nice breast, some sort of emotion is triggered. Staying in the noting stage is only possible by meditation and reaching some degree of insight.